I think I may have had an epiphany or sorts. I've referred to myself as a transhumanist since sometime in 1997. It's even on the dust jacket copy of To Charles Fort, With Love. But now I'm beginning to see that when I say "transhumanist" I mean something quite different from what most people mean when they they "transhumanist." By transhumanism I didn't mean "an intellectual and cultural movement supporting the use of new sciences and technologies to increase human physical and cognitive abilities and improve the human condition in unprecedented ways." It was never about becoming more machine and less human (or if it was, it isn't anymore), or even about becoming a better human. Rather, it was about becoming less human and more something else biological. I do see how technology (gene therapy, etc.) might someday make that a reality, but I still don't think that the transhumanist label applies to me. For one thing, there seems to be something inherently optimistic and anti-Nature in the ideas of transhumansim, and, perhaps (and someone's gonna yell at me for saying this, but I'm saying it anyway) anti-feminine. Transhumanism seems somehow very patrifocal, almost Apollonian to me, this attempt to escape the nasty, squishy flesh and replace it with nice clean mechanical bits. What's been happening all these years in my head is distinctly Dionysian. And it's never really been about becoming better, just different. Maybe "posthuman" or "parahuman" would be a more appropriate term. Oh, frell. I don't know what I'm trying to say. I should have thought on this more before speaking.
Anyway...yesterday was nice. Cloudy and warm and blustery with moments of bright sunshine (today is just sunny and warm). Spooky and I had a nice walk, lunch at Fellini's in Candler Park, then caught a 4:30 matinee of Timur Bekmambetov's Nightwatch (Nochnoi Dozor) over at Tara. I've been waiting ages, it seems, to see this film, and I wasn't disappointed. This is the movie that the two Underworld films would have liked to have been. Beautiful, haunting, epic, with an unexpected sense of humour. Later, after dinner, we finally saw Walk the LIne, which also gets two thumbs up. I thought both Witherspoon and Phoenix were absolutely superb. So, yeah, I used most of my day off to indulge in movies. Oh, I also saw a fairly silly something on the National Geographic Channel about Loch Ness. I'm becoming annoyed with the endless parade of Loch Ness documentaries. At this point, there remain no significant unanswered questions about the existence of "Nessie." No evidence now exists to justify further efforts and expeditures to search the loch for extant plesiosaurs (or whatever). The "surgeon's photo" was a hoax. Dinsdale mistakenly filmed a boat. The underwater photos published in Nature in the '70s were computer-enhanced shots of the bottom of the lake and a waterlogged stump. The lake simply doesn't have the necessary biomass to support a population of large predators. End of story. Loch Ness is a truly marvelous place, but Nessie belongs to the realm of Faerie, not science.
Here are a few photos from yesterday, behind the cut. I look disturbingly buff. I don't know what's up with that:

The tulip tress have bloomed.

Yep. Disturbingly buff.

The lightning-struck tree (on the left) from my dream and its companion, and suddenly this is putting me in mind of Yeats.
Anyway...yesterday was nice. Cloudy and warm and blustery with moments of bright sunshine (today is just sunny and warm). Spooky and I had a nice walk, lunch at Fellini's in Candler Park, then caught a 4:30 matinee of Timur Bekmambetov's Nightwatch (Nochnoi Dozor) over at Tara. I've been waiting ages, it seems, to see this film, and I wasn't disappointed. This is the movie that the two Underworld films would have liked to have been. Beautiful, haunting, epic, with an unexpected sense of humour. Later, after dinner, we finally saw Walk the LIne, which also gets two thumbs up. I thought both Witherspoon and Phoenix were absolutely superb. So, yeah, I used most of my day off to indulge in movies. Oh, I also saw a fairly silly something on the National Geographic Channel about Loch Ness. I'm becoming annoyed with the endless parade of Loch Ness documentaries. At this point, there remain no significant unanswered questions about the existence of "Nessie." No evidence now exists to justify further efforts and expeditures to search the loch for extant plesiosaurs (or whatever). The "surgeon's photo" was a hoax. Dinsdale mistakenly filmed a boat. The underwater photos published in Nature in the '70s were computer-enhanced shots of the bottom of the lake and a waterlogged stump. The lake simply doesn't have the necessary biomass to support a population of large predators. End of story. Loch Ness is a truly marvelous place, but Nessie belongs to the realm of Faerie, not science.
Here are a few photos from yesterday, behind the cut. I look disturbingly buff. I don't know what's up with that:
The tulip tress have bloomed.
Yep. Disturbingly buff.
The lightning-struck tree (on the left) from my dream and its companion, and suddenly this is putting me in mind of Yeats.
- Mood:
okay - Music:Belly, "Feed the Tree"

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It is, indeed. The second film is Daywatch and the third, Duskwatch, is now in production, I think.
and suddenly this is putting me in mind of Yeats.
That can't be a bad thing.
But now I'm beginning to see that when I say "transhumanist" I mean something quite different from what most people mean when they they "transhumanist" . . . It was never about becoming more machine and less human (or if it was, it isn't anymore), or even about becoming a better human. Rather, it was about becoming less human and more something else biological.
If it helps, I think your fiction was my first encounter with the term "transhumanism," and that's always what I've taken it to mean. So, who knows? You might not have to come up with a new term after all. You might simply redefine it for the rest of the planet.
It's definitely a good thing. I was editing the image, making it small enough for the LJ, and "The Two Trees" occurred to me. It's one of my favourite poems (and has shown up in my work a couple of times), and I was mostly surprised it hadn't occurred to me earlier.
If it helps, I think your fiction was my first encounter with the term "transhumanism," and that's always what I've taken it to mean. So, who knows? You might not have to come up with a new term after all. You might simply redefine it for the rest of the planet.
I think "parahumanist" really might be a better term.
Shouldn't the term remove "human" from the equation entirely? Perhaps "Trans-speciesism"? Maybe not, what an ugly looking word. Or should we back farther up the tree to genus, etc.? A Transcendent Tangential Evolutionary Drive?
Ugh. I'm not up to this today. I'm going to eat some ice-cream and mull.
Are you familiar with Loreena McKennitt's arrangement of the poem? It can be found on her 1994 album The Mask and Mirror, and at least I'm fond of it.
I think "parahumanist" really might be a better term.
Implying existence alongside and apart from humanity, rather than some evolution through?
Are you familiar with Loreena McKennitt's arrangement of the poem? It can be found on her 1994 album The Mask and Mirror, and at least I'm fond of it.
Oh, yes. I love McKennitt and The Mask and Mirror is my favorite of her albums.
Implying existence alongside and apart from humanity, rather than some evolution through?
Yes. More or less. Transhumanism implies, I think, a transcendent state of humanity, improved humanity. What I'm after is effectively removing myself from the species entirely.
Just checking. : )
The Visit was the first album of hers I heard, so I'm imprinted on that one in some respect (and it has several of my favorite songs: "All Souls' Night," "Bonny Portmore," "The Lady of Shalott," and "Cymbeline"), but I do like The Mask and Mirror. I think it has some of her best settings—"The Dark Night of the Soul," "The Two Trees," "Prospero's Speech"—and I'm very fond of her "Bonny Swans." I know about five versions of that ballad, and hers is still the first I flash on when the topic comes up.
What I'm after is effectively removing myself from the species entirely.
Parahumanism, then. ("Posthumanism" also implies a succession: the next step in a progression, not coexistence or simply opting out.) Yay, Greek prefixes.
Indeed!
Nochnoi Dozor is a wonderful film because it doesn't focus on the pretty & tormented members of the world after dark, but the grubby and rarely pretty Muscovites on whom the world's fate truly hinges. It was a film about the prolitariat in these dark fantasy worlds and it far surpased anything made about the 'beautiful tormented.'
And I adore the way they handled the subtitles. Most companies just spatter subtitles on the screen. This is the first film I've actually seen where the subtitles are as much a part of the experience as the film itself. They're vital, living things. I wish more films would put that much care into their subtitles.
I agree wholeheartedly!
And I adore the way they handled the subtitles. Most companies just spatter subtitles on the screen. This is the first film I've actually seen where the subtitles are as much a part of the experience as the film itself. They're vital, living things. I wish more films would put that much care into their subtitles.
Yes, the dynamic use of subtites was superb. I'm often annoyed by subtitles, but Nochnoi Dozor makes them an integrated part of the film, not merely words put up on the screen, floating "above" the images.
Who's a Ho?
Loch Ness is a truly marvelous place, but Nessie belongs to the realm of Faerie, not science.
I still say she has a place on my fantasy basketball team.
Transhumanism seems somehow very patrifocal, almost Apollonian to me, this attempt to escape the nasty, squishy flesh and replace it with nice clean mechanical bits.
Well, I wouldn't mind so much getting rid of all of the realities of gross (by which I mean inexact, not squishy) digestion and trade up to some other means of providing fuel for the rest of my squishy bits.
I look disturbingly buff.
Well, not so much "buff". More like: "You got a problem with that? Damn right you don't."
One of life's great mysteries.
Well, I wouldn't mind so much getting rid of all of the realities of gross (by which I mean inexact, not squishy) digestion and trade up to some other means of providing fuel for the rest of my squishy bits.
I long to be photosynthetic.
Well, not so much "buff". More like: "You got a problem with that? Damn right you don't."
Okay, now I'm think of Hagrid in the train station in the first HP film" "What you lookin' at?"
Started reading your short fiction a few weeks ago, beginning with Candles for Elizabeth, and I think your stories are models of clarity, in terms of their intense focus on one thing (character, mood, whatever) and everything else contributing. I'm currently reading To Charles Fort before I go to bed at night, one story every few days, and am enjoying it immensely. I'm prone to read through collections quickly, but I don't want this one to end!
Several days (weeks?) back you mentioned something about a publisher (critic?) saying he or she had a hard time finding the "story" in your stories... Do you hear this a lot from readers? I know you get people telling you they aren't satisfied, but I'm wondering how many people actually criticize your fiction for not being "story-like." So many fantasy and horror stories follow such tired plots that it's a wonder anyone can actually finish reading them, let alone writing them. I can't imagine anyone yawning in the middle of reading one of your stories, certain of what was coming next.
I agree that it's a dominant theme in my work, though often I didn't set out to write about transformation. It just...comes. Indeed, I think a psychiatrist would likely label me "paraphilic." Certainly the Frog Toes and Tentacles/Sirenia Digest stuff.
Started reading your short fiction a few weeks ago, beginning with Candles for Elizabeth, and I think your stories are models of clarity, in terms of their intense focus on one thing (character, mood, whatever) and everything else contributing. I'm currently reading To Charles Fort before I go to bed at night, one story every few days, and am enjoying it immensely. I'm prone to read through collections quickly, but I don't want this one to end!
:-)
Several days (weeks?) back you mentioned something about a publisher (critic?) saying he or she had a hard time finding the "story" in your stories... Do you hear this a lot from readers?
I certainly hear too much of it. I think the first time I heard it was from an author/small press publisher who commented, way back in '96, that he could "never find the story in a Caitlín Kiernan story." It comes up frequently. In the afterword to Tales of Pain and Wonder, Peter Straub noted that:
Only a handful [of the collection's stories] — "Breakfast in the House of the Rising Sun," "In the Water Works," "San Andreas," and perhaps "Estate" — unfold in the manner common to short stories from Chekhov to Flannery O'Connor, by suspending details and events along a narrative arc like that of a novel in miniature. Kiernan can martial her material into that kind of form whenever she feels like loosening up and getting expansive, but the nature of her vision customarily demands a more compressed, elided, and enigmatic narrative technique. Cinematic pans and jump-cuts from characterto character are cut to the bone, along with backstory explanations; plot has been distilled down to movement towards encounter and encounter; in the absence of familiar narrative comforts, details take on a surreal glow, and the trappings of rationality evaporate...
I think he was dead-on, for the most part, and I think these observations speak directly to the difficulty a lot of people have with my stories. Most readers have been taught to read in a rather rigid fashion, how to read a story, what "should" be there, what to expect, and when their expectations are thwarted, they are mystified and conclude taht the writer is somehow mistaken or in error.
Hah. I'd like to write RXs for the psychiatrist who attempted to definitively label you.
Most readers have been taught to read in a rather rigid fashion....when their expectations are thwarted, they are mystified and conclude that the writer is somehow mistaken or in error.
And I don't always get it to start off with, but I eventually enjoy being thwarted. It makes me glad I spent the time reading the story and even the aggravation is made satisfying. ...Does that make me a masochistic reader?
Oh, believe me, they've tried.
Does that make me a masochistic reader?
I think it just makes you a thoughtful, open-minded reader.
Okay, now I'm conjuring images of masochistic reading, books with barbed pages, book covers studded with razors...
Well, and I was re-reading "Persephone" yesterday: it's been there right from the beginning.
(Actually, in the right light, "Persephone" could pass for a Sirenia piece with very little trouble at all: "On the bed, Lin spread her arms, her legs, inviting. Inside she was hollow, and Deme, turning away, clawing for the door, helplessly thought of overripe fruit, pomegranates. Hollow and filled with clinging seeds. Soft, red quivering hairs and seeds and ripe . . . and Deme shut her eyes, as her lover folded itself around her. And the embrace was not cold, not the gelid thing that Deme had expected, brush of those magenta hairs against her cheeks gentle as Lin's touch had ever been.")
Yep.
Actually, in the right light, "Persephone" could pass for a Sirenia piece with very little trouble at all:
And yep again. I may actually run "Persephone" in some future issue of the digest.
Cool. I'd like to see a Vince Locke illustration for that.
In its original form or rewritten?
In its original form or rewritten?
The rewrite, the version from From Weird and Distant Shores.
Hmmmm. There was never a rewrite to "Breakfast..." I stand confused! ;)
Er?
Oh. Okay. Can I plead senility?
Did the anthology ever come out?
And for those of you just tuning in, that's Men of Mystery: Erotic Tales of Intrigue and Suspense, edited by Sean Meriwether and Greg Wharton.
Thanks for taking the time to reply in depth -- much appreciated. Haven't gotten to TOPAW yet, but I look forward to Straub's afterward. On those occasions where I've read interviews with or profiles of him, he's seemed like quite an articulate guy, with more interests than just writing. Not to say that I don't enjoy reading what writers have to say about writing, but hearing about their life and the context for their writing is at least as interesting (and instructive) as any how-to article or book.
I've found the transhumanist suff fascinating. We already augment ourselves with technology, just usually not implanting it, but using external technology to augment our memory and communications capabilities. I've always viewed the mechanistic aspect as just a sign of our current technology along with the fact that people seem much more squeemish about the idea of symbiotes and such.
Yep.
It's a bit old, it might be interesting to find out what sort of follow-up there was.
I noticed this as well.
Cool. Thanks!
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Wow. I didn't even know that film existed.
Okay. I've been looking for that for years. Thank you.
Hmm. I dunno. I look at someone like Joan Rivers and I think that there may be room under the femininity umbrella for such a philosophy.
Maybe "posthuman" or "parahuman" would be a more appropriate term.
Maybe "extrahuman"? I guess that probably sounds too much like "really, really human."
Loch Ness is a truly marvelous place, but Nessie belongs to the realm of Faerie, not science.
Personally, I think it was a secret British submarine.
I found out that the Japanese refer to Nessie as "Nesuko." Which I can live with. It's better than finding out that Nesuko means "steaming pile of plesiosaur faeces."
Disturbingly buff.
What, that doesn't come with being a writer?
It's a very nice picture. The colours, especially, work well--your hair, skin, and the tulip tree.
Thank you.
I think Giger, when I think Transhumanism. I think biomech. Emphasis on neither.